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| Message Board > Music Chitchat - General ( Indie, Jazz, World, Electronic etc.) > Victoria Music Scene |
| pippi User Info... | I'm moving to Victoria in three weeks, people have told me the music scene is not so good there. Please tell they were wrong. And where I can find good live music (indie/punk/folk). - Sun, 27 Jul 2008 2:47pm | ||
| Tyler User Info... | there's a little button called "show listings" - Sun, 27 Jul 2008 2:54pm | ||
| pippi User Info... | I know I saw that, I just want to know what you recommend as the best places to go? Just because there are shows going on doesn't mean they're good and in non sketchy places. I don't know anyone in the city and I want to meet nice friendly people along with the good live music. - Sun, 27 Jul 2008 7:41pm | ||
| Cody User Info... | I'd say that the indie/punk/folk scene is OK in Victoria, although it depends on what you're into. Bars that you may want to frequent are Logan's Pub and Lucky Bar. All ages shows typically happen at Camas Bookstore, Sunset Room, Big Fernwood(?), Cornerstone Christian Fellowship, etc. You could browse the "top friends" on these myspace profiles for a feel of one side of "the" music scene: http://www.myspace.com/oldlife http://www.myspace.com/aaarghrecords There are usually a few bigger indie-type-band concerts at least once a month or so. For example, in the next few weeks: Final Fantasy, Black Mountain, Mogwai, etc. There are a fair number of smaller shows, too. In the next few weeks: Special Noise, Ok Vancouver Ok, Secret Mommy, Colourbook, so on, etc. I hope this helps. - Sun, 27 Jul 2008 8:15pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | I honestly think the music scene is pretty good here. The punk scene has some very good groups who often do shows together on the same bill. Alcoholic White Trash, Hoosegow, Lesbian Fist Magnet, KegKillers, Beaumonts, Shivs, and the mighty, mighty Dayglo Abortions, just to name a few. There aren't any "sketchy" venues as far as I'm concerned. It won't take you long to figure it all out. Herman's can be good for folk type sounds, of which Victoria has a plenty. I've also seen some great shows at the church on Douglas and Broughton. Also the Mcphearson and Royal theatres get good bands. I saw Sarah Harmer at the Conservatory, and there is also a venue at Uvic. Welcome to Victoria. You should have no problem finding what you are looking for. Many a night I have to choose between shows that are playing different venues on the same date. - Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:55pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Don't pay any attention to Tyler. He's being a bit of a wiener these days for some reason. - Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:57pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | ......The Remanes are an AMAZING punk band http://www.myspace.com/remanes and you have to check out Brewtality, Start With the Cobra, Moneyshot, and Breach. See, there is so much I can't even list em all off the top of my head. No offense to anyone I've left out. - Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:17pm | ||
| zedius User Info... | The best thing about Victoria is there aren't any sketchy places. Except Holiday Courts. But that's a funny landmark. - Mon, 28 Jul 2008 8:30am | ||
| Tyler User Info... | hey I'm no wiener, you wiener! sorry for being abrupt earlier. the victoria hardcore scene is especially strong for a city this size, especially one isolated on an island. there's a cool show happening soon if you're into that sort of thing - swamp thing and creatures at camas bookstore. there's a good following of crust/grind if you're into that kind of stuff. like mentioned earlier, there are a few straight up punk bands. the all ages indie rock scene is being held at the stitches by people like Cody, Andrea, and Ryan. there are a ton of bar shows in that vein though, at places like Logan's and Lucky. I'm pretty satisfied with victoria's music scene, but I kind of grew into it so I'm biased. - Mon, 28 Jul 2008 2:24pm Edited: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 2:25pm | ||
| pippi User Info... | Thanks for the info. Its seems like you have a pretty happening little city here. Much more so then where I'm from. Do you get many out of province bands? Or do they usually stop in Vancouver when they're on tour? - Mon, 28 Jul 2008 7:27pm | ||
| T. Depression User Info... | I'd have to disagree with alot of what'd been said here. I've lived here for a year (and will probably be here for life)...and I find the local music scene VERY lacking. Sure there are a decent amount of shows with varying degrees of support...but there is very little variety in the music being made and booked regularly. I'm mostly interested in what's happening in the punk and hardcore scenes. It seems like the same handful of bands playing relatively the same style, playing every couple weeks. Most local punk bands are onfluenced by the Dayglo Abortions school of punk-rock, and dumbed down, metal influenced stuff. NOthing wrong with that....but do we need 5 bands doing it every week? It's either that or Crust/Grind shows..which is OK too...if they put a ittle variety on the bill. Seriously...this town needs more variety in the punk scene. There's decades of killer [unk to pick up influences from...why does it sound like everyone in Victoria is listening to the same 50 records? - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 6:22am | ||
| Zedius User Info... | ^ Agreed, but people seem to like that? - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 7:45am | ||
| Tyler User Info... | there's been plenty of variety in punk and hardcore as far as touring bands. logs, graf orlock, lewd acts, mindset, (soon to be) black ships - they're all playing stuff from completely different corners of the hardcore spectrum. I agree that there could be a greater number and greater variety of local bands. but hardcore shows have had pop punk, noise, and even more straight ahead indie rock on the bill. it's totally diverse. if you disagree, then you're obviously not going to all the shows. but I will agree with you about needing more variety as far as local punk. it's difficult when the following, as far as hardcore is concerned, is the same thirty-five people and a handful of randoms. I think it has something to do with the younger generation being satisfied enough with the pseudo-underground image of what they see on muchmusic, but that's a whole different debate entirely. - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:09am | ||
| Bryan User Info... | I don't really agree with the dude a couple posts above me... look at that show with Inepsy, The Endless Blockade and so on that's happening in a couple days... I don't really see how you could have a more diverse bill while remaining in the realm of "punk/metal". It's true that there are a lot of shows that consist of the same few local bands, but for a city of this size I'd say there are definitely enough interesting out of town bands coming in on a regular basis to keep me coming out to shows well into the forseeable future. And a lot of those same few local bands actually happen to be really good so I can deal with that. - Fri, 1 Aug 2008 9:36am | ||
| Mike User Info... | lots of shows to pick from every day of the week.. what Victoria lacks are small to mid-level affordable venues.. with only one venue dedicated to nightly local band shows of the popular variety (Logans) Lucky Bar filling in the blanks on Tues/Friday and Evolutions ripping bands off badly every Thursday (to the point that most outside promoters ignore the place entirely) Of course there are the pay-for-use venues (Sugar, VEC) and the once in a blue moon venues (Diego's, Manhatten) and a few venues that only cater to bigger touring acts and tributes (Element) and a few crappy all ages venues in town with no in-house sound and horrible acoustics (Fernwood, JCC) - Fri, 1 Aug 2008 1:39pm | ||
| T. Depression User Info... | I like how Tyler and Bryan only refer to all-ages, hardcore shows...and Bryan actually believes that the Sunday's all-ages bill is a diverse one. To the vast majority of people besides the handful of people who are at every all-ages grind/crust show in town...it would sound all the bands playing Sunday (with the exception of Acid Reflux and Inepsy) are playing pretty much the same brand of metal. A diverse bill would have bands that are easily distinguishable from each other...even to people who aren't fans of the music. How about a grind band playing with a 60's styled garage band, a power-pop band, a glam band, a dude playing 70's styled punk w/ a drum machine and an 80's styled hardcore band. That's a diverse bill. Will it happen here? Nope...beacause nobody would stay for the whole show...and Victoria doesn't have enough variety of bands. - Fri, 1 Aug 2008 4:46pm | ||
| Jeevs User Info... | Looking outside the hardcore and pissed off scene for a moment. There are plenty of diverse bands. This place is the end of the road, literally. It's were all interesting musicians ,who are tired of the same shit in Toronto, Vancouver or wherever can come to and find other like minded nut balls. It's where you can get away with pretty much anything musically. That being said it is also the Velvet Rut. Where you can find wicked shit and have great development and support. But eventually have to leave to get anywhere. We fly under the radar to the rest of the world, which is good and bad. The biggest problem is definitely a lack of decent venues. More condos mean less stages. - Fri, 1 Aug 2008 5:35pm | ||
| Bryan User Info... | Have you even listened to the bands playing that show dude? Dirk and Mudlark are really slow, Iskra are black metally and epic, Osk and Endless Blockade are basically really fast hardcore punk, Aghast are raw d-beat, Acid Reflux are more straight up hardcore punk rock, Inepsy are Motorhead worship. I mean I guess they do all fall under the banner of "heavy/abraisive/dissonant/punk and metal based/blahblah music" but I think anybody would be able to tell that Dirk and Iskra sound way different without listening to "grind" as you've sweepingly dismissed all of it. You'll find that the problem of people being too close-minded to sit through a show like the one you describe extends well beyond Victoria and into the realm of humanity in general (though that being said, I can even recall a show put on by the other guy you're targeting in your post not too long ago that featured a metal/grind band, an indie band, an electro-rock band and a hardcore band). As for the lack of variety of bands, of course there are places with bigger and more expansive music scenes but for the size of Victoria I'd say we do alright. It's true that I do attend mostly all-ages hardcore/grind/whatever shows, but that's because I find it to be where a lot of the most interesting bands are playing. - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 2:05am Edited: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 2:07am | ||
| Tyler User Info... | Really diverse shows used to happen all the time around 2004 and 2005 here. It's too bad Bosevus stopped doing shows - Scott is busy with bigger things and Matt is way more involved in the club scene now. I remember seeing 70s rock, nu metal, ska, straight ahead indie rock, and a score of other stuff in the same show. Things aren't THAT diverse anymore. The all ages hardcore scene still mixes in new flavours from time to time. What's your problem that I'm only referring to all ages shows? Punk, and anything loosely based in punk, is most valid to me when everyone is allowed in. Victoria DOES have the variety of bands you don't think it does, they just don't tend to play together in oddball shows these days. If you look in the archives, there are plenty of crazy mixes. I do agree it hasn't happened in the immediate future. It could. We tend to lump similar bands together because that's the difference between a local following of a genre and just a weird mix. If you're so mad about it, why don't you put on some shows? You'll find that Victoria does have bands in the styles you mentioned. Maybe not the 70's punk with a drum machine and only a glam band by a stretch, but plenty of other stuff. Dig through the band listings on here. - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 4:42am | ||
| Aidan Logins User Info... | indie and punk scenes are pretty alright, but the folk scene here ROCKS. check out http://www.cornerstonecollectiverecords.com and http://www.iloveindiemusic.com - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 7:09am | ||
| T. Depression User Info... | Bryan...my point is...all the bands on that bill besides Acid Reflux and Inepsy, are meal influenced bands. They may sound different to you, but to most people they are playing the same type of music. I grew up on Hardcore...and one of the things that drew me to punk-rock was the diversity. There was a time when bands as diverse as The Stranglers, The Jam, Deja Voodoo, The Cramps, Suicide, Screamers, Los Reactors, Metal Urbain, Zero Boys, The Accused, Real Kids, The Boys, WIpers, Flipper, Government Issue, Rezillos, etc, etc, etc...were all considered punk, and shared spae in the same people's record collections. Now everyone's sub divided genre up so much, and everyones specializing in a few of these sub genres. Bryan...it may be Grind, black metal, D-Beat, etc to you..but it's just metal influenced stuff to me. Point is...no matter what you say...there is little diversity in the Victoria punk hardcore scenes...and if there was...most people wouldn't give the different bands the time of day. - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 7:35am | ||
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| tyler User Info... | there something for everybody, were all enclosed in are little scenes for the most part, but you can just go to different shows for different sounds. and the sunday show was the best show of the year probably - Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:49am | ||
| Troy User Info... | Well at least the original question was answered for the person who asked. And he seemed stoked about the size of the scene here so that is good. Then we have us locals defending and attacking our small scene. Yes we could use more diversity for general audience appeal but we also for those entrenched in the music of a specific genre have the diversity we seek. I am primarily involved in the Hardcore scene, i book shows did hardcore fest, etc. This fall i will have a few Indie shows so will be getting involved there. I primarily only book All Ages. I view this as the best mode of seeing a show, anyone can attend, over by 11 (before i get tired.. bar shows go so late + still buses running!) and well better energy usually. I know a lot of friends / people that rarely attend AA any more as they are of age.. which sucks they reminisce about how good all ages were but don't want to attend anymore. We do have imo good little pocket scenes for hardcore - amazingly steady for a scene that has had the same 20-35 kids for like 5 years punk - i see them listed pretty often grind/crust - last few years to me seems like this has grown and it is great metal - to me it looks like this was on the backburner of victoria's scene for a year or two.. now seems like a lot more locals and shows. noise - from what i have heard and a few shows i attended we have a well known noise scene internationally.. or well 2 of our noise acts.. who post on this too...haha indie scene (divided by local record labels) old life 'pocket' really have been putting on a lot of shows and many new bands popping up aaargh - these bands have been around for awhile but are still strong around town self righteous / kill devil hill - more folky i guess ha? a lot of new pop punk bands in town too.. ha Beat Kids, Everyone Everywhere we have the whole Theset, quick said the bird, conversation, tawg scene that has huge highschool followings it seems also a lot of new bands in there too also random misfits that don't quite fit with the above scene.. get a few fans from there.. and also don't fit with aaargh / old life almost don't want to post this as people will argue with me but this is how i look at our little scene also forgetting to go into more of the bar scene and club scenes that we have here oh well - Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:37am | ||
| Brandon User Info... | "Of course there are the pay-for-use venues (Sugar, VEC) and the once in a blue moon venues (Diego's, Manhatten) and a few venues that only cater to bigger touring acts and tributes (Element)" sugar is pay per use? news to me. i dont think OneDrop ever had to pay to perform there. we are a bunch of booze loving fuckers though so maybe they made enough money off the bar that the fee for the venue was just scrapped. - Sun, 17 Aug 2008 3:55pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | the promoter pays. that's why you get 12 bucks and 2 beers there. - Sun, 17 Aug 2008 4:17pm | ||
| Mike User Info... | "sugar is pay per use? " As RB states.. the promoter pays to rent the venue. I think its around a $1000 per night.. give or take depending on circumstance or drink sales etc. Did One Drop actually setup any of these shows are were they setup by a promoter who had One Drop play without divulging all the details.. - Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:00am Edited: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:01am | ||
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